The Real Moses

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Re: The Real Moses

Postby cliff » Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:10 pm

Liz wrote:The bible was written by man, as in by hand, but it was instructed by God. Besides, if God didn't exist and some men wrote the Bible, why would they write a work not giving power to themselves?


they did write a book giving power to themselves
they claimed to be the ones god was speaking to so everyone had to obey what god said, 'through them, the representatives of god'
and if anyone complained it was not the leader of the peaple who ordered it, it was the 'god' that no one can confront to complain about the rules and laws
so yes, it gives power to them who wrote it by saying that it is gods will that they the leaders be obeyed in the name of god
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby benitagriggs » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:11 am

I was a born again believer for years. Then I started reading about krisna. according to the bible, we inherited a sin nature from Adam, and thats why the world is so terrible. That makes no sense to me.
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby sam » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:21 pm

I just shake my head at the so called theory of what this guy is talking about. Its really too bad when you think about how another atheist once again misinturpred the sciptures and tried to re define what they think it should say. Oh I didnt know Mt Sinai was a valcano (lol lol lol) ... So what happened to the rest of the Isrealites before Josuah and Caleb went into Caanan? oh that was people growing old and tired and they died off.... What happend to the mulititude that came against Moses and the Priest Hood and God caused the earth to open up and swallow them whole, -oh but that was just an earthquake right. Mt Sinai a volcano ---lolol good one. :lol: :lol:
Hey if you want to be suckered in by this guy then to each is own. I guess we should all stop listening to God and start listing to folks like bill who have all the awnsers. There isnt and there hasnt been one atheist dead or alive that could interpred the Bible correctly nor understand it. The only thing atheist folks have contributed is confusion because they themselve refused to believe truth because they don't understand it. History has shown that when we refuse to understand something or someone we condemn it look at racism and bigotry. I have seen and experienced the power of God himself. When doctors told a young man that he was hiv positive the believers prayed over him and he went back to the doctors and he was healed. ----( OH THATS MODERN MEDICINE) I know another young person who had full blown aids and the believers prayed over him and he went back to the doctors to shock even them because the virus was no where to be found.( BAHH HUMMBUG THATS NON SENSE) Well I myself can testify that my own father was diagnoised with cancer and a seroius infection given 6 month to live. Guess what we prayed in Jesus name to God the Father that he would heal my father. Guess what , he went back to the doctors to shock them because the cancer tumors were gone as well as the infection. (OH I DONT BELIEVE THAT FOR A SECOND.) All is true all has happened , so I guess guys like bill will write a book on how the red blood cells were inflamed and caused the viruses and cancers cells to die right. :lol: :lol: yeah I will look for that one too.
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby dvnt » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:36 am

If you think for a moment that your words, assembled at the level of a 3rd grader, will move anyone, well, maybe they will; but I can't understand what the hell you're talking about.

Get an education.
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Comer » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:40 pm

@ Sam

The main point of this book is to get people to read the Bible for themselves and to realise just what Moses and his god were really like. It doesn't matter anyway as there was no mass Exodus. How could approximately three million people and up to as many as thirty million animals wander the desert for forty years with absolutely no reference to them in any other historical records. How could that many slaves walk out of Egypt and not have such a socially catastrophic event recorded in Egyptian history? Why do records show only handfuls of nomadic Hebrews living in the "Promised Land" at the time of King David (1000 BCE)?

As for your miracles, why has God never once, in the history of the world, given us an unambigous miracle? Why has he never grown back a severed leg? Which is more likely, that the whole natural order of things be suspended, or that there was a misdiagnosis, or that there has been a little bit of embellishment of these miracle stories? Why does God save some and not others? like the child that deserves an aids or cancer cure just as much, if not more than your very lucky father?
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby ronnie » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:46 pm

did this work?
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Guest » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:49 pm

Good, it worked, i have a question. Does it say in the bible that the world is 42 thousand years old? I've always been told that it all was created in 6 days around 6000 years ago.
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Guest » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:13 pm

a few other questions. You said evolution was proved to be a fact in 1953, how did they prove it? Also on page 67 you give a contradiction in the bible; it looks to me like 2 seperate stories about different people, I don't understand what you mean.
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Stephen » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:29 pm

Cliff wrote:it's interesting that the description says sciance cannot explain how it all started when sciance actually did it in a lab, you take the basic chemicals that existed on earth millions of years ago expose them to simular atmosphere and electric shocks to simulate lightning and they form into the basic building blocks that lead to life, this had been repeated several times and can be done by anyone with a sealed glass container a little methane gas and some sinple chemicals, ohh and the electric shock.
ohh as for the big bang, there are mathamatical models that explain it very well, and so far the experiments they have managed to come up with support the thiery of multidimensial brein flux cousing the big bang, meaning that before the bang there was energy in an alternate dimension and an event there leaked through to create this universe


You can believe that but you don't think God could exist??? Those experiments have been proven inaccurate; even if they were correct, it sounds like you're saying that with intelligent intervention (intelligent - like God) and the right materials (the ones that God made) you can make amino acids (and how exactly would they turn into actual living things???). And about your second paragraph; it sounds like you do believe in God, you just don't call Him that and you give the credit for His work to some eerie UNnatural phenomenon. Are you a supernatural-belief-touting atheist???
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby xbanks2 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:33 pm

sam wrote:I just shake my head at the so called theory of what this guy is talking about. Its really too bad when you think about how another atheist once again misinturpred the sciptures and tried to re define what they think it should say.


So, no Christian has ever interpreted the Bible to say what they wanted it to? Really? So it's just coincidence there's like 102 different versions of the Bible?

dvnt wrote:I guess we should all stop listening to God and start listing to folks like bill who have all the awnsers.


First off I don't think everyone listens to God anyway. Christians are straight hypocrites.
What does God's voice sound like? I think Morgan Freeman has a nice voice. I hope God's voice sounds like his.

sam wrote:There isnt and there hasnt been one atheist dead or alive that could interpred the Bible correctly nor understand it. The only thing atheist folks have contributed is confusion because they themselve refused to believe truth because they don't understand it.


What about the Christians that turned atheist? They're reading something wrong too right?

The only thing they have contributed is confusion? Really? Well I guess the whole law of gravity was a stupid, confusing notion. Or how about the fact the Earth revolves around the Sun? Or are you still so self absorbed that the Earth is in the center of the Universe?

sam wrote:History has shown that when we refuse to understand something or someone we condemn it look at racism and bigotry.


History has also shown that the Church was one of the main condemners. Anyone remember the witch hunts? Kill all free thinking women who know a little about medicine or could do a few magic tricks. Those were good times, lets go back to those days when the church reigned supreme. :roll:

So how much research are they doing on your dad? Like what kind of tests? Surely if a disease as profound as cancer just up and vanished for no apparent reason no doctor could pass up the opportunity to figure out why. Why, your father could posses the cure for cancer.

Now this part is not directed at sam:
Can't cancer cells go dormant? It's my understanding that a cancer cell is a rouge cell that has lost the means in which to steady it's reproductive process. As such, the cell divides uncontrollably, causing the masses. Would it not be possible for a cell to 'refresh'? Perhaps the cells guidelines could kick back on?
Knowledge is power.
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