The Real Moses

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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Conor » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:42 pm

Among many other things, Moses was, according to the Old Testament, responsible for ethnic cleansing, slaughter of men, women and children and mistreatment of slaves…all from the instruction of God. Nobody could reconcile the God of Moses with the modern God that Christians worship today. The whole thing is a myth.
Conor
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby Mark » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:42 pm

I am totally amazed! I cannot believe that this story wasnt told to me earlier. I will have to come back as I have to look in the bible to check what you have mentioned is true!
Mark
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby Liz » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:43 pm

I am glad to believe in God. All those people were killed because they were disobeying God and they turned their back on him. God is a loving God, but he also gets jealous, angry, and sad, just as it says in the bible. Why wouldn't you want to believe in God, what with all the great promises he makes towards us. I bet you that after the rapture, all of you atheists on here will convert because of the tribulation. Just don't go to the antichrist. BTW, I've been speaking my mind since I was a little girl. It's not your age that matters, it's whether or not what you're telling is the truth. And good for you Conor and Gary, I think that's your name.

Liz
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Liz » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:44 pm

Oh, I mean good for you, Lena and Gerry. I got confused w/ the names, sorry. :)
Liz
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby rasheem witty » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:45 pm

:x how dare you you say theat that their is no god !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

evolution is fake
rasheem witty
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby Liz » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:45 pm

Rasheem, who r u talking 2?
Liz
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby Mary Ann » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:46 pm

People, the Bible Is Filled with Hidden Meaning and is not meant and was never meant to be taken literally. Jesus frequently showed that the Old Testament contained deeper meanings than were first apparent. For example, He told His disciples that the Old Testament contained many prophecies about His own life that they had not understood. "Beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning him." (Luke 24:27) "He opened their understanding that they might comprehend the Scriptures." (Luke 24:45) Paul wrote that the Word of God is "the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest" (Colossians 1:26).

The Bible warns us not to be literalistic. "We should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." (Romans 7:6) "The letter kills, but the spirit gives life." (2 Corinthians 3:6) Jesus Himself always spoke in parables (Matthew 13:34) and figurative language (John 16:12, 25), and when His disciples interpreted His sayings literally, He said, "You people of little faith? … Don’t you understand?" (Matthew 16:7-12)

Paul wrote that the whole Old Testament tells of Christ, but with those who do not see this hidden meaning "their minds are blinded"—it is as if a veil covers the Old Testament when they read (1 Corinthians 3:13-16). When Jesus’ disciples failed to see that hidden meaning in the Old Testament, He called them "fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken" (Luke 24:25). Of those who were not ready to understand the hidden meanings in His parables, Jesus said, "This people’s heart has grown dull, and their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed." (Matthew 13:15) But when His disciples were ready to understand the deeper meaning, Jesus said, "Blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear." (Matthew 13:16)

The story of Adam and Eve is another example. This story contains a deeper meaning. People who get caught up in arguing whether Adam and Eve were actual people are not only missing what the Bible actually says about the story, they are missing the opportunity to see the inner meaning, which is the real point of the stories. The Bible itself points us towards this deeper meaning, as if to invite us to enter more deeply into its mysteries.
Mary Ann
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby Liz » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:46 pm

So, what are you saying?
Liz
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby John Jo » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:47 pm

She is saying the bible is a book that should appear in the Fiction Section of a book shop. If its written by man then you cant take it literally. You also got to take into account that it's a book that has been translated, translated and translated again and sometimes the person translating it might take different meaning from what was intended. For instance when the tradition that the Messiah would be born of a virgin arose from a mistranslation of a prophetic text in Isaiah 7:14. The original Hebrew stated that an almah ("young girl") would give birth to a figure called Emmanuel (whom Christians traditionally identify with Jesus), but the Septuagint translated almah into Greek as parthenos ("virgin").

Dont believe everything you read! But if your faith makes you happy then you believe in it away. Just dint believe in something because you are afraid that God will come down and strike with great vengeance or because you were always told that this is the truth. Do some research and then when you have all the facts come to an informed decision.
John Jo
 

Re: The Real Moses

Postby Liz » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:47 pm

The bible was written by man, as in by hand, but it was instructed by God. Besides, if God didn't exist and some men wrote the Bible, why would they write a work not giving power to themselves?
Liz
 

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