The Real Moses

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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Fintan » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:54 pm

Hi qwerty

Just because you believe something to be true doesn't make it true. There are thousands of different religious beliefs. They all can't be right, what makes you so sure yours is?

Fintan
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby alexis » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:54 pm

this is complete bull *****. you're dumb and you're going to have to answer to GOD cause guess what there is one! just look around you.
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Katie Pike » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:50 pm

Hey people. I just want you to know that there really is a God and He loves you very much.

God Bless You,

Katie Pike
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Bob » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:51 pm

GOD is real and to proove it i will tell you about the earths magnetic field.If the earth is billions of years old the field would detiriate and destroy the earth would be a crumb of dirt and you need to shut up withyour lies.Big boom you so FUNNY [:D]

GOOD BY and have ffun at your eternal bonfire!!!!!!
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby t » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:52 pm

Darwin goes a step further and concedes there may have been a Creator of matter, and of one, or at most, a few germs, from which all vegetation and all animals came by evolution--all orders, cl*****es, families, genera, species, and varieties. He differs from Lamarck, by allowing the creation of one germ, possibly a few more. He says in his "Origin of Species," "I believe that animals are descended from at most only four or five progenitors; and plants from an equal or lesser number . Analogy would lead me one step further, namely, to the belief that all animals and plants are descended from one prototype...All the organic beings, which have ever lived on the earth, may be descended from some one primordial form." Darwin, because of his great scholarship, fairness, and candor, won for his theory more favor than it inherently deserves. Darwin taught that, "The lower impulses of vegetable life p*****, by insensible gradations, into the instinct of animals and the higher intelligence of man," without purpose or design. None of these three hypotheses can admit the creation of man.
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby john » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:07 pm

Mr Ruth
I just finished reading your book “The Real Moses”. First of all, I would like to say “thank you”, for letting it be downloaded free of charge, as I certainly wouldn’t have paid real money for it.
The book states on page two that “this book basically proves that there is no God and that life evolved by natural processes that still exist and are keeping all living creatures alive today. The energy from the sun is what sustains life on this planet and not God.” (unless God made the sun, right?) Your book then goes on to prove….that you don’t believe in God. It doesn’t “prove” anything except your “facts” are all mixed up.
You start off with a part of the bible that you obviously don’t like, and call that your proof? Is there any “real” evidence you can point to that says Moses climbed a volcano and invented God? Sure, the description could describe a volcano, but don’t you think some of the Israelites would have known if it was just a volcano? Is there any evidence today that says the mountain he climed (Mt. Sinai) was a volcano at one time? (I’ll bet you didn’t even check to see.) Also, how could Moses have pulled off all the things that happened to the Israelites? How did he cause a plague of locusts? How did he part the red sea? How did he keep all their clothes from not wearing out after wandering 40 years in the desert? Some of these thing happened before he even “invented” God. How did he explain these things before he “invented’ God? What you’re saying just doesn’t make sense!
Now I’m not gonna spend a lot of time trying to convince you that there is a God, because you’ve already convinced yourself there isn’t one. I would point out however that if there is a God, you are in a lot of trouble. If you don’t believe it, go stick your hand on a burner and don’t pull it off! Then imagine your whole body on fire-not just your hand-and that going on forever. It does seem pretty extreme….but that’s what will happen to you if there is a God) Does that seem unjust to you? Well, it isn’t, because you’ve been given a way out…it’s a free gift just for the asking.
The Big Bang and the Theory of evolution (which have not been proven by the way, or evolutionists would be screaming at the top of their lungs why they were true) were invented to show that life came to be without God. They sound like they make sense, but closer scrutiny shows they just don’t work. Life cannot come from non-life. Dead things don’t have babies-even “intelligent” scientists cannot create life from dead things. You want me to believe it formed out of primordial slime? Also, I don’t think you would believe that your house was made by an explosion. Explosions (like the big bang) only cause chaos Your house had a designer. You had a designer.
I will say that I don’t disagree with everything in your book. Page three says “just because you believe something doesn’t make it true”. With this I totally agree. It applies to me. It also applies to you It applies to all religions. God won’t disappear because you don’t believe in him.
I have tried to keep this short. I would recommend you do more studying before you write a book of this nature.(try visiting halos.com, you’ll find irrefutable evidence that the granites of our planet were formed rapidly-not that they formed by slow cooling over millions of years as suggested by “the big bang”)


Sincerely,
John
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby fintanruth » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:07 am

Hi John.

Thanks for your comments on the book.

I don't know if there was a volcano or not but that's what it sounded like to me.

If you believe that there is a God out there that would like to burn me in hell for all eternity, I would realy like to know his name so that I can look him up.

You do know that all the gods had names, if I find him agreeable I might decide to believe in him.

But I have to say that he does'nt sound very nice if he likes to burn people.

Fintan
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby john » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:51 am

fintan,
As I said before, I'm not going to prove to you there's a God. I could go on for a long time with "proofs", but as I said before, you're already convinced there is no God.There is evidence all around you that God exists.(Some of which has already been mentioned in previous comments) One just has to look-and realize what he's looking at.
As for His name, you already know it.
Does he "like" burning you for all eternity? No, but He's told you he will....and I would agree that it doesn't seem very nice, except He's also told you how to escape it if you don't want it to happen. If you had no choice, I would agree with you, but you have every opportunity not to burn. You have to choose not to...it's entirely up to you. You have been warned
You really should check out if mt sinai was ever a volcano. It would certainly lend more believability to your "theory" if it was.
also check out the website I showed you.(halos.com)Maybe you can learn something. I also think you would like a movie on you tube called "zeitgeist" I don't believe it, but you can check it out if you want. Thanks at least for listening.

John
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby Mark » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:30 am

WOW! Burning in hell. Now I would like to see the evidence of that theory! :?
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Re: The Real Moses

Postby fintanruth » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:26 pm

john wrote:fintan,

Does he "like" burning you for all eternity? No, but He's told you he will....and I would agree that it doesn't seem very nice, except He's also told you how to escape it if you don't want it to happen. If you had no choice, I would agree with you, but you have every opportunity not to burn. You have to choose not to...it's entirely up to you. You have been warned
John


Hi John.

Basically what you are saying; is that for God to get humans to love him, he has to threaten them with hellfire for all eternity. That's no basis for loving God.

Fintan
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