God isnt real

[THE ONE.]

SORRY IM LATE.

1) Man is well known to be the most intelligent creature on earth.
2) With all mans intelligence, knowledge and wisdom he can create complex things such as computers to do calculations.
3) mans brain is so complex even he does not truly understand how it works but has mainly only theorys.
4) man no matter how wise, knowledgeable or skilful can NOT even dream to be able to design manufacture and bring life to such a simple creature as a butterfly due to the complexity of its nature.

everything in existence is exactly where it needs to be, all creatures are in surroundings which provide the fundamental requirements for its survival. If the moon was only a fraction out of the orbit it has been placed in, life on earth would not be able to exist due to the subsequent gravitational pull.

LIFE, EXISTENCE AND EVERYTHING WE ALL KNOW TO BE TRUE IS SO MINDBLOWINGLY COMPLEX - YET AMAZINGLY EVERYTHING IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR EXISTENCE TO OCCUR.

If man sees himself as the most intelligent being ever to live, yet cannot even dream to create even the simplest of wonders that we see before us. SURELY TO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A DESIGN TO LIFE AND EXISTENCE MUST BE RIDICULOUSLY NIEVE.

THERE IS A DESIGN, THEREFORE THERE MUST BE A DESIGNER, AND SUBSEQUENTLY THIS BEING MUST BE WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE GOD.

quite why events pan out in life, or happen the way they do is irrelevant to the question is there a god?

the answer is already there in the wonders u see, feel, and experience each day.


events happen, and if we have not been told why, then we must not be permitted to know. If thats due to some being being able to watch from afar the choices we make, and actions we take to be able to judge what type of a person we truly are and the lessons we need to learn to make our "souls" better then so be it.

If you gave a baby a cash card and number for an ATM machine which gave it access to a million pounds, the child would die of starvation. Simply because it would have idea how to read or have a concept of numbers, or computer screens, let alone the value of money to be able to buy the food that it yearns so much to have.

People ask what is the meaning of life and then look in bewilderment in the mirror in a confused state while they ponder an answer that they believe msut be so rediculously complex they could never understand, yet yearn to know.

The irony in it all is that the answer is the most obvious answer there possibly could be. The meaning of life is........... to live. Once we have lived, we will have experienced all that life teaches us and we will hopefully be prepared to cross over to the next plain which a basic abbillity to be able to understand it.

IF GOD APPEARED FROM THE HEAVENS AND TOLD US ALL HE WAS HERE AND WE HAVE TO BE GOOD OR WE WOULD NOT GET INTO HEAVEN, PEOPLE WOULD BE FEARFUL AND MAKE CHOICES IN LIFE THAT ARE SEEN TO BE GOOD DUE TO KNOWING FOR SURE THEY ARE BEING WATCHED, in a way cheating and not acting in a way that truly reflects there being. If we were indeed to be judged then the judgement would be based on life of falseness and people who have not truly learned or progressed to the stage of conciousness they need to be at to be able to understand or cope with whatever faces us in whatever place "heaven" may be. Therefore it would be quite understandable that god does not let himself be known and that we are left to make our own choices.

Look through your eyes and see ....

THERE IS A DESIGN, THEREFORE THERE MUST BE A DESIGNER, AND SUBSEQUENTLY THIS BEING MUST BE WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE GOD.

By that rationalle......

GOD IS REAL. LIFE IS WONDERFUL. STOP BEING SO ANGRY AT EVERYTHING, BE THANKFULL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE HAD AND NOT ANGRY AT WHAT YOU HAVE LOST OR WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

LIVE HAPPY LIVES. AND THANK GOD YOUR HERE.

(and no i dont think heaven has atm machines lol)





that is all x

[dvnt]

THERE IS A DESIGN, THEREFORE THERE MUST BE A DESIGNER, AND SUBSEQUENTLY THIS BEING MUST BE WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE GOD.

By that rationalle......

GOD IS REAL. LIFE IS WONDERFUL. STOP BEING SO ANGRY AT EVERYTHING, BE THANKFULL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE HAD AND NOT ANGRY AT WHAT YOU HAVE LOST OR WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

LIVE HAPPY LIVES. AND THANK GOD YOUR HERE.

Your theory (and I use the possesive term "your" quite loosely) has several fallacies. Mainly, you're guilty of confirmation bias. All you see is how well everything is designed around you, but these designs are not perfect, in fact these designs go horribly wrong very frequently when looking at the scope of humanity. Cancer, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, countless other diseases... many of them could be eradicated if reproduction simply had methods of error correction; which is one of the first things our feeble intelligences accomplished when making devices for dealing with information -- computers.

Your views are a result of what you want and expect to see and your wants and expectations are not your own, but the result of your time in culture -- they are indoctrinations. The term "design" is fickle and you use it because it implies the agency of a higher intelligence. You make leaps in your logic which only seem rational to you. The fact that there is a design and contextual purpose in this world does not necessitate a deity.

Design is both out of necessity. If a population of animals doesn't adapt their design, they will no longer exist. It is this simple logic which defeats your unnecessary deistic cravings. There is no reason to infer intent or agency from the world around us.

[1God4Love]

I agree that you can't be mad at something that doesn't exist. At the same time, if you DID believe in God, you would have accepted that it is impossible for us to understand everything God does, and have faith that wherever your friend is, he is happy. One of humanity's greatest strengths is the power to endure and no matter what your beliefs, you are no exception.

[tjinmissoula]

It's always interesting and somewhat funny to hear what the theists have to say about their religions and deity's. By that I mean it's funny to listen to people who think they know what they're talking about, but in reality are very intellectually deprived and narrow-minded when it comes to whether "god" exists or not. Theists are always throwing what they believe to be wise questions like " whats the meaning to life without God?", and " without God there can be no room for morality." Anyone with a rational mind and self-confidence can answer these questions easily. You don't need god to have meaning in life, you need to believe in yourself and others, and make yourself as happy as can be and life becomes pretty meaningful. Whether or not life is meaningful is determined not in the presence of god, but in the mind of the individual. It's not about god, it's about you. It is almost pointless to debate on the existence of god, we simply do not have enough knowledge of the universe. But with what we have, It's a certainty that god is fighting a losing battle, the more knowledge we attain, the more god is pushed out of the conversation. As for those who say it's impossible for god not to exist because the design of this world is too perfect, is only to reveal how narrow-minded and stupid you are. There is nothing in this world that is perfect, the word shouldn't even exist in a literal way of speaking. And there is no reason to not believe that the way our world exists is on sheer "luck". In fact it makes life more interesting to lean towards that theory. Remember that whats considered a good or bad design is purely an opinion, much like deciding on whether an artistic piece of work is good or bad. There is much in this world that doesn't make sense and seems out of order. organisms come into existence and fade away just as easily as it came, the strong survive, the weak die. It's how the universe as we know it works, not how god works, god is for people who fear the unknown, and don't wish to pursue the truth. Theists and some scientists always like to say there is always a beginning and an end to everything, same theory applies to religion, It had it's beginning, and someday, when people are wise enough and brave enough to accept the truth of the universe, they will let go of religion, and let it die.